Worth Reading

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Ralph Hughes (Rhughes)

Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 12:07 am Click here to edit this post
I have just completed reading the books “Enemies Foreign and Domestic” and “Domestic Enemies”, by Matthew Bracken. I found the novels detail very realistically a variety of senarios that some or many of us could encounter as our national, state, county and municipal governments resort to more totalitarianism, as Hispanic groups grasp for more political power, and as individual meglomaniacs pursue opportunities to exercise greater control over the lives of other people for personal gain and satisfaction of ego. Many prospective readers have probably already known and/or encountered most of the personality types characterized in the novel. Some of us probably have envisioned future events with ourselves thrust in the middle of one or more of the various conflicts and mortal combats described in the novel. (I personally know parents of 3 individuals who have had repeated dreams in which they lose their lives violently combating forces bent on forcing America and the Free World into the clutches of a socialist dictatorship.) The stories should make one aware of the terrible decisions many of us may have to make as to which side we will choose, to what extent we will risk our lives, for what situations are we willing to die in any number of ways, and under what circumstances, and to what extent will we endanger the welfare or lives of those dear to us. The novel also details to a considerable extent the modern sophisticated weaponry and other battle devices that could be brought to bear against us in a conflict, armed or otherwise. That can be scary to those of us who's experiences date back to the M-1 Garand, the M-2 Carbine, the Tommy Gun and Grease Gun, the BAR, and the .45.

With all due respect for what it takes to sell books to most of the American public, I think the story could have been made every bit as interesting without the sexcapades. I also think that a few events were unrealistic, at least for one who has an ancient history of only a few clandestine ops on the ground, most in which firearms were not even carried. But I'll let other readers decide that for themselves.

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Peter Patriot (Peterpatriot)

Monday, October 09, 2006 - 07:24 pm Click here to edit this post
I haven't personally read 'Enemies Foreign and Domestic', but I would like to remind everybody that it is a fictional book. The government is not out to get its citizens. Bush lifted the ban on assault rifles; the Castle Doctrine is also a positive step for gun rights. It is important not to lose your head in conspiracy theories. Look what happened to Timothy McVeigh. He read the 'Turner Diaries' and bought into the conspiracy theory and look what he did. He murdered innocent Americans and children, for nothing. The government never came and tried to take anyone's guns. The only person that actual stole someone’s guns was Timothy McVeigh when he robbed his own friend's guns from the American Assault Company. Once is prison McVeigh read 'Unforeseen Consequences' and stated that if he read it first then it might have changed his method of attack. The first attack in the Turner Diaries was a truck bomb, which McVeigh copied, if he read ‘Unforeseen Consequences’ first he would have engaged in selective assassination like the ‘White Resistance Manual’ also promotes.

Separating fact from fiction is important. If you watch ‘the Terminator’ you can visualize what you might do if the robots attacked you, but then it is important to realize that is fictional. If you watch the ‘Matrix’ you do not need to question whether or not you are living in a computer program. Join the NRA, support the rights of honest citizens to own guns, but do not prepare for war against your own country. Those that purpose to overthrow their own government are the ‘Domestic Enemies’ the title of the book actual refers to, or at least who in referred to when you pledge to support and defend your country.

Patriots
The Founding Fathers were pro-government, and they were for laws. Many liberals, libertarians, and such have promoted the idea that the Founding Fathers wanted everyone to be able to do anything they wanted, and that simply isn’t true. If you read the Declaration of Independence one of the major themes of it was the lack of ability of the Founding Fathers to pass the laws necessary to maintain order in the colonies. People were running around doing whatever they wanted, and the Founding Fathers fought to pass laws in order to protect the honest citizens of society. The Founding Fathers were not anarchists, and they were not opposed to government. They actually were the government, many of which served as President or were responsible of writing the Constitution or other laws. Reading other documents such as ‘the Right to Rebel’ the need for law and order is also clearly expressed. John Locke in his ‘Second Treatise on Government’ recognized that law and order was important. The Social Contract that people joined together under was for mutual defense, but it involved sacrifice. As John Locke explained, men were willing to give up some of their freedom (sovereignty) in exchange for safety, because without safety they would quickly lose all of their freedoms.

Social Contract Today
The Social Contract still exist today in America. People born in the United States are automatically US citizens. This is because as the Preamble states the Constitution was written for those at the time and for their posterity. Those born in the United States are the posterity being referred to, and are born with the rights and protections of the American citizens because of this. As they grow and reach age 18 they are faced with the Social Contract Locke spoke of. They are taught our laws and the rules of society and are free to accept these rules and be a productive member of society, or they can resist. If they resist and commit crimes against the society, they will be arrested, tried, and sentenced based on the rules of our society (social contract). It is not necessary for anyone to sign a Social Contract because the principles are automatically incorporated into our society’s laws. If someone breaks these laws, they will be dealt with according to those laws; that is the purpose of government and the social contract. If people to not wish to accept the rules of our society they do not have to. Even if they were born in America, they can renounce their citizenship at anything, and they are free to leave America.

Ralph,
I am not saying that any of this is related to you, but since many people who read similar books promoting New World Orders and ZOG conspiracies are not able to handle them, I thought I would mention it. America needs patriots, but a patriot is someone that loves, supports, and defends their country. In the past few decades false patriots such as McVeigh have promoted the idea of patriots are revolutionaries or anarchists, but that is not what the Founding Fathers were. The Founding Fathers were pro-government and many actually were the government. Patriots like McVeigh who seek to overthrow America are the Domestic Enemies; they are the insurgents the militias are called forward to put down. You cannot be part of the militia and the insurgency at the same time. You are either one or the other, and if you are a militia seeking to overthrow your country then you are not a patriot, you are an insurgent, a terrorist, and a domestic enemy, that true militias, patriots, and Americans will stand against.


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