The United Nations

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Ralph Hughes (Rhughes)

Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 06:37 pm Click here to edit this post
Excerpt from President Bush's Proclamation of UN Day, Oct. 20, 2005:

"Sixty years ago, the United Nations was created to spread hope and liberty, fight poverty and disease, and help secure human rights and human dignity for people everywhere. On United Nations Day, we recommit ourselves to the ideals on which this organization was founded."

In actual fact:

Sixty years ago, the United Nations was created to spread socialism and create a single global government under the guise of fostering hope, liberty, health and human dignity for people everywhere. On United Nations Day, we should recommit ourselves to universal awareness of the true record of the United Nations and the real intent for which this organization was founded.

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Gary R. Van Horn (Cyrus35)

Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 08:10 pm Click here to edit this post
True. As far as it goes. Let us remember that the Secretary General Pro-Tem at the San Francisco founding meeting of the U.N. was Alger Hiss, a liar and Soviet agent, which has been confirmed by the Venona intercepts (of Soviet communications.)

The U.N. is indeed performing as envisioned by its founders, who were mostly socialists and communists, and with the help of every U.S. administration since.
This, notably, in the case of the unilateral disarmament of the United States in favor of a U.N. "Peace Force." (Now there's an oxymoron for you!)

This has been official U.S. policy since 1963, as stated in State Department document #7277. I have been aware of this since 1965 and have a copy of the document... but few people believed me, even when shown a copy of document.

This is one of the situations that has convinced me that people will believe only what they WANT to believe, the facts notwithstanding.

Of course, this attitude on the part of so many of our fellow citizens is having its inevitable consequences: those who will not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. In this case, bondage, loss of our independence as a nation, followed by block wardens, concentration camps, and the execution of patriots who are viewed as conspirators against the established order.

Decisions do have consequences; doing nothing about the U.N. threat is a decision and slavery its consequence.

Ahh, but surely I overstate my case. All is well in Zion! ;>{

Cyrus35

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Ralph Hughes (Rhughes)

Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 12:58 pm Click here to edit this post
Now that I'm retired, I work as a substitute school teacher. Occasionally I do social studies and history classes. I note that text books and lesson plans extoll the propagandized virtues of the UN. One high school teacher I substituted for had a little UN flag parked on the front of his desk.

Where possible, I try to inject my opinion into any lesson that includes sufficient discussion about the UN. Following are some of the things I try to point out:

Prominent leaders of the United Nations, including the Secretary General and his son, have recently brought the organization under richly deserved condemnation as a corrupt sinkhole of tyrants, thieves and world government schemers.

We’ve seen the UN Secretary General attempting to prevent US congressional investigation into the multi-million dollar oil-for-food scandal, which involved the Secretary General’s son. On 14 June this year a memo surfaced revealing Kofi Annan’s personal and direct connection to the scandal.

The UN’s Human Rights Commission is composed of representatives of tyrannical dictatorships well known for terror, torture and genocide - China, Cuba, Libya, Sudan, Syria, Russia, Vietnam and Zimbabwe. It criticizes the USA while ignoring slavery and slaughter in Sudan and violations of human rights as Americans understand human rights in all of those countries.

I have read very believable reports that in 1994, Kofi Annan, then head of the UN's peacekeeping division, thwarted efforts of the UN military commander, Canadian General Romero Dallaire, to intervene to prevent the massacre of hundreds of thousands of Tutsis, and then blocked investigation of the incident.

More recently we have Colin Powell telling reporters at UN headquarters on 14 February 2001: “With respect to U.S. policy, when it comes to our role as a member of the Security Council, we obviously are bound by UN resolutions.” Bound by resolutions made by a bunch of thugs who detest America and its constitutional republic form of government (what’s left of it)? Give me a flippin break

The UN clearly seeks to abolish our Bill of Rights and replace it with privileges and requirements that would reduce Americans to being tools and vassals of an elite and privileged few. An elite who alone would take from the US Congress the power, right and responsibility to declare wars, and dictate on which side of any war our military would fight, dictate what weapons we will use, and control and command our men who do the fighting. We certainly had a good taste of this in both Korea and Vietnam. Only very few noticed. Few people caught on even after that Blackhawk went down in Somalia.

These are some of the things we should expect from an organization with a charter authored by the likes of the proven traitor Alger Hiss and one of Stalin’s top men, V.M. Molotov.

I am among a number of Americans who think the USA should not only cut off financial support of the UN, but withdraw as a member of the organization and invite it to park itself in a location with a philosophy more in keeping with the majority of voting members. I suggest Moscow or Peking. I fully realize such action could lead to us eventually standing alone against the rest of the world. Fair enough. I think Patrick Henry had the answer for that.

I haven't been fired yet, but...

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Gary R. Van Horn (Cyrus35)

Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 10:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Ralph,

You seem to be the academic equivalent of the Greek warriors who held the pass at Thermopylae.

Choose your battles; pick the ones you have a chance of winning... or in exerting major influence.

Some years ago I was passing out "opinion poll" sheets on several current subjects, such as the U.N., etc. They had multiple choice answers. A group of high-school girls asked to take copies of the sheets and fill them out. I thought "Oh, boy. With all the propaganda they get in school, I can just about know what answers they will give."
I was pleasantly surprised. They answered very conservatively and patriotically. They evidently let the propagande slide off them like water off a duck's back.
There is hope for the future! Many of the rising generation are resisting the left-slanted teachings of the Public Fools.

BTW, if you can teach by the Spirit, you will be amazed at what you can do without getting a violent reaction. And your words will sink deep into the hearts of your students.

Good Luck and... Illegitimi Non Carborundum!

Cyrus35

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Peter Patriot (Peterpatriot)

Monday, October 09, 2006 - 08:29 pm Click here to edit this post
The United Nations is weak and impotent. They are unwilling to enforce their own sanctions and are not a threat to America. America is not going to fall under the control of the United Nations, because the United Nations contains many countries that are America’s enemies. The United Nations failed to back up their sanctions in Iraq, but America and some of our NATO allies did. The United Nations is a place where nations can get together and discuss their problems, but the UN is impotent at fixing anything, and there are too many conflicting nations for it to produce any real change. One thing that it does do good is send peacekeeping forces on occasions, but overall the UN is weak in what it was created to do.


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