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Joel Skousen

Wednesday, February 23, 2000 - 09:16 pm Click here to edit this post
Canada is still the last great frontier on the North American continent. You'll find more uninhabited square miles in Canada than any other place, including Alaska. Interestingly enough, the majority of Canada's population lives within 50 miles of the US border. This is a function of both warmer weather and accessibility to US commerce and products.

Besides the cold winters, Canada's biggest liability is its government. Even though the US government is very much controlled by globalist insiders, Canada's government is completely given over to the New World Order and acts like a lap dog to every new globalist attempt to strangle liberty at home and abroad. Gun control is rabid in Canada, as are other mandates for state control of people's lives.

In reality, the outward daily life differences between the US and Canada are few. In many respects, Canadians are more polite and cities are cleaner. But because of the Constitutional traditions in the US there is a much larger group (still a minority) of people here that are resistant to the globalist march to a world government. Canadians, especially in the eastern part, don't have this same ideological resistance. Concerns for liberty are swept aside much more rapidly and dramatically in Canada than in the US. So in searching for safe places from social unrest, rural Canada is still a great place as long as you can deal with increased isolation and the cold winters. But for Americans, one has to consider how many people around you are willing to defend fundamental rights, and come to mutual aid. The numbers are fairly high in the States, but low in Canada. This does not mean Canadians out West don't have an anti-government bent--they do. But it still isn't as ideologically based as in the US.

For this and other reasons, I much more prefer the western Povinces of Alberta, and BC to the high population areas of the eastern seaboard.

The best overall general area is the "banana belt" areas in the huge Okanagon valley, centered around the city of Penticton, BC and surrounding towns.
There are many other great places all along the US Canadian border. Staying within a couple of day's hike of the US border is a good strategy for Americans--just in case.

Joel Skousen

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True North

Wednesday, March 15, 2000 - 03:10 pm Click here to edit this post
I used to live in Vancouver. I left Canada for the USA to pursue job opportunities that weren't available in Canada. I have earned significantly more in the USA, and because of the lower tax rates, have retained more of what I earned.

Despite the rain, I love the Pacific Northwest and will return regularly for kayaking trips.

I will probably NOT return to Canada in the long term (except for visits) because of:
- high taxes (income and sales tax)
- smaller market (less job opportunity)
- high labor union activity
- language and native land claims issues fester perpetually
- no 2nd ammendment rights to slow the encroachment of gun control

Vancouver's public school system is better than what I've experienced in California and Colorado. There is a silver lining, however: low education standards in the USA provoked my wife and I to homeschool our children. It's been a great adventure.

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Simon

Sunday, January 07, 2001 - 03:22 am Click here to edit this post
I think that Joel is dead on about Canada. It's a very nice place with great potential, however there is no backbone to the nation. The population is generally rather naive and apathetic to the true state of the Globalist Agenda. In fact Canada is more of a dictatorship in that the Prime Minister can call all the shots in judges, senate seats, voting along party lines etc. And since Pierre Trudeau the country has come about as close to a true socialist state as one can get. Note the color that Pierre chose for the Flag.
Taxes will undoubtedly go up due to a large amount of immigration mostly unskilled third world country immigrants and families in many cases with low ethical standards. Interestingly immigration from Europe or the West in general has been stifled, as has generally highly skilled labor. It seems to be an agenda of slowly bankrupting the current culture of its standards of its entrepreneurs and of course its educational standards. All in the attempt to make big government the needed Big Brother who will serve us all.
Canada on one hand has the most per capita wealth potential in its resources of any nation on earth, and it seems that the One Worlders are aware of this, and if they drive us into enough debt through their various chicaneries, they will be able hold us ransom for the resources that we have and they want.
For sure they are bent on bringing us into the New World Disorder, and unfortunately we only have the good old USA to again count on to not succumb to the Communistic New World Order.
Ironically David Rockefeller and friends who actually are Americans are at the forefront of of this oppressive regime.

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Robert Brown

Monday, October 08, 2001 - 02:18 am Click here to edit this post
Simon is off base on a couple of things. Pierre Trudeau was not prime minister until 1968 and the flag was selected in 1964 when he was a minor MP. The flag issue was debated for several years, with a huge percentage dead against getting rid of the Red Ensign which had the Union Jack in the corner. Most designs suggested had green or red maple leafs, often 3 on a branch. The Liberal Prime Minister was Lester Pearson who decided on the final design with a vote in parliament, not one man's decision. The red was a reminder of the red ensign which had become so well recognized on our military units in WW2 and Suez etc. As a dedicated Canadian who has travelled the world and lived and worked in Australia & China, now 55 years old, I am one who also dead against Canada cozying up to the New World Order. I have been a staunch westerner who wants to include the whole country in our government, from the point of view of the Canadian Alliance - Reform Party movement that is also dead against the PM appointing senators and judges and using heavy party discipline for votes. This new party is now the official opposition and has over 200,000 active members and had a huge percentage of the popular vote in the last federal election. As a Canadian I do not agree with what the elected government does in many things, but don't knock my flag because it happens to be red colour. In 1972 I travelled 16 flights on Pan Am from Australia to Hong Kong, Japan, India, Lebanon, Rome, Paris, London, New York and back to Seattle via Fairbanks. My parents & I had discount flight tickets because I had worked for Qantas in Sydney. On Pan Am all the other passengers were Americans most of the time during Feb. off season. We had Canadian flags on our luggages, and we never once were asked to open our bags by customs when they saw our very recognizable flag and waved us through with smiles., yet every American on either side of us in line had to open theirs and suffer it all being searched. I would like to more freely work in USA for better pay, less taxes and market opportunity, but it is almost impossible for me to get a work visa while so many questionable ones are obviously getting in, and my mother was BORN in Connecticut but did not live at least 16 years of her life in USA after 1932 or some stupid rule, so I am loopholed out. I am allowed to come there and operate a business and hire hundreds of USA citizens as long as I keep my primary address in Canada and pay taxes to both countries, which I am not ready to do.
I'm not sure where you get the idea our government operates as an oppressive regime, Simon. It's along way from Taliban or even a benevolent dictataroship. It's a parliamentary democracy, for which our guys and women fought hard in WW2, Korea, and since including Gulf War. There is just enough in what you say that is cockeyed for me to suspect everything you say, though you have just enough of it OK to get some radicals listening to you. We Canadians have long been aware that we are but a small mouse living beside the elephant, and everytime it rolls over we better be ready to run. Thus, you have people here who have known for many decades that we have to be self sufficient, which was the root for the Prairies people in the great depression starting medicare so the wheat pool system and co-ops could help fund a public health system for all those scattered farmers whose small communities could not raise municipal taxes enough to have local hospitals. But, being self sufficient with a measure of public benefactorship is not a red communistic socialism, if that is what you are implying. It was a solution to a serious problem that Americans wish they had designed long ago. There has been some problem with our medicare in recent years due to governments belt tightening to be more self sufficient in public budget spendings, and hordes of our best trained doctors and nurses have gone south to USA for better money and research positions. Just when our boomers are starting to retire and a real mess is about to happen with shortages of specialists. It is a mere echo of what happened here in the late 1950's when Avro-Canadair received federal money to design & build the best fighter jet in the world, way better than any USA was building, even F16. Eisenhower came to visit PM John Diefenbaker and TOLD him we were going to have Bomarc missiles on our soil as a defence system, and TOLD him to scrap the Avro Arrow or suffer "the consequences". A real shame it was, every prototype was destroyed AND all the plans so there are only photos left and a piece of nose cone. The plane tested out over mach 2 with excellent range and armaments capacity, and our latest nav systems - better than any USA had. The best of our scientists were then hired into USA NASA and Northrop, Rockwell, etc. to secure the future of aviation and space hardware into USA control. No wonder Canada then decided, since the Americans would not allow us to have much in the way of hardware except what we buy from you, we would focus on being peace keeping forces and helping lessen the effects to refugee problems created by others fighting. The same Lester Pearson who "decided" our flag debate in 1964, is the man who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1956 0r 57 for working out the solution to the Suez Crisis between Egypt, Britain and Israel. Trudeau was used by Nixon in 1972 to go to Beijing and sound out Mao Tse Tung before Nixon went himself with much fanfare to reopen relations with China. Many of us in the west did not like Trudeau because he brought in the Official Languages Act that required all medium level & up government officials (federal) to be fluent French & English, which left a lot of top jobs for only the bilinguals of Quebec. He also brought in the National Energy Policy requiring Alberta & BC to take less money for oil & gas products so the eastern cities could "share the wealth", which nearly shut down Alberta when all their Texas connections left. Now Pres. Bush is making noises about getting a cushy deal with Chretien for our gas & oil resources, and just watch how many anti-govt people there are in the west if they see our federal government and USA set up a new Bi-National Energy Policy . We have to agree that USA must depend less and less on Arab oil, but we also believe the USA has 10 times the capacity of Canadians to develop alternate fuels for commuter cars and delivery trucks, and the USA has been doing prescious little about it since the crisis in 1973. That's almost 30 years, Simon, while you have been merrily driving your tractors and pickup trucks. Meanwhile, it is a Vancouver company Ballard Power Systems that is about to introduce fuel cell vehicles, with USA companies licking their chops. Watch Daimler Chrysler & Ford, who have big money in Ballard, move it all to USA once it proves out. Sure, we are worried, because we believe it has been largely the USA's doing that we are largely dis-armed in Canada. Your people do not want ANY armed resistance when you come in to take over our natural resources of oil, gas, hydro power and clean water. Look at everything , Simon. That's why we are all getting armed here with surgical rubber slingshots and ball bearing supplies, because it is as good as a gun and very silent --- for what you might call terrorist guerilla tactics, similar to what the Minutemen used during your Revolutionary War! The Nafta Free Trade agreement sold away our rights to keep our water after most Canadians wanted water to be kept out of NAFTA and our negotiators had their arms twisted in Washington to not tell us that it was included. Now what about free trade? We have dozens of softwood lumber mills closed in the west this summer because your pine dealers in southeast states complained that Canadian lumber was leaving theirs unsold. Well, your pine is no good for housing uses -- it warps and twists before its off the pile. But, a few congressmen bit on it and talked Bush into allowing a 19+ percent duty on our wood crossing the border when your builders are crying for our wood, and it puts your peoples house costs up over 20%. Free Trade only works when it is in the USA favor, and don't you KNOW it!
The trade towers tragedy is another in a long line of sucker punches the USA has taken in the past 30 years -- Bay of Pigs, Beirut barracks bombing, and many other incidents that should have been protected against by simply EXPECTING the WORST to happen and prepare for it and be always vigilant.
All Canadians, regardless of political stripe, are worried about that WTC and Pentagon event. It means that our reliance on our strong and smart brothers to the south is misplaced trust, because we have been told so long that if we forget about carrying our own guns you will be there to protect us. Even to the point of Chretien cutting our armed forces in half & closing our western army bases in mid-90's, so if we had to go and help you, we have virtually nothing to send.
No longer can we count on that big brother to help us. The trust is lost. We wait for the next wave of biobombs and chembombs and wonder who will be there to give us a decent burial. Yes, we can run into the mountains in the valleys that run north. But, that is no lasting solution to invisible weapons. Walk back and it will wait there to kill you, like smallpox did to our indian people. Many of us feel defenceless and we ask who it was who convinced us we were safe standing beside our American friends.
Wrap me in that red and white flag. I'll die for it. I'll fight until my right arm gives out pulling that slingshot!
Robert Brown

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Robert Kitchen

Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 04:05 am Click here to edit this post
How typicaly Canadian, taking offence to inacurate
flag-color history and other such trivial things.
The government will not help you in time of crisis. Forget the politics, the news, the mis-information - you are on your own - PERIOD.
Wake up and smell the damned roses fellow canadians. Forget the crap we have been fed since birth about what's important and what we need, or should have. Start thinking for yourselves and your families. A quick start up list (that I have started practicing myself in the past few months):

1. Get rid of your cable T.V. - you need to stop the damned brainwashing so you can think.
2. Move out of the city - a smaller town is better
especially if lots of natural resources, hunting, fishing, back roads, waterways, etc...
3. Get two vehicles (truck and van) and learn to fix them, (get a place with a garage) - for a quick get away, place to sleep, storage, making money, etc... a regular car, atv's etc. = no use.
4. Learn, learn, learn, especially medical information (no bio-terrorist vaccines in Canada),
first aid and minor surgery. Also learn about planning and draw scenarios of what can happen,
a sort of reverse engineering method that will give you a plan all the way back to what you should be doing now.
5. Get in shape, get your family in shape. Stress, panic, major changes and much more physical discomforts can be expected in the years to come.
6. Get out of debt and re-focus your money in assets that are usefull, get out of the damn stock market and invest in yourself.
7. Evaluate your relationships, others are in or they are out. You will not be able to support or comfort those who are pretenting it's business as usual.
8. Start now - every small step you take every day may be the one that saves you and your kids.
Time is still on our side but our lucky run can't last forever.
9. Try to enjoy your life and have fun. Don't just be a survivor, aim to prosper - financialy and personaly - that way if you don't make it, at least you go out in style instead of having been deceived and helpless.
10. Stay out of trouble, avoid illegal stuff, new laws being passed in Canada vitually wiping out any freedom of privacy we have remaining.
Confinement or restriction reduces your ability to react when needed.

Good luck fellow Canadians.

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KimSulz

Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 04:23 pm Click here to edit this post
Robert Brown... What can I say... Ignorance is bliss? Even someone who has taken only 1 or 2 political science courses on the Canadian Constitution understands more than you in regards to the precarious position we are in right now. Come on... Canada is not a democracy. We are a dictatorship, that we just happen to elect every few years. In the meantime, between elections, that PM of ours can do anything he bloody well likes, including signing important documents which have.. ( I repeat...Have) set us up to become a part of the United Nations/New World Order.

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LMS

Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 08:32 pm Click here to edit this post
Excerpts:

Calgary is a major city in the province of Alberta and is situated in western Canada at the crossing of the Bow and Elbow rivers. Affectionately known as Cowtown, Calgary currently has a population of 800,000 and is one of the fastest growing cities in Canada.

The growth of Calgary is mostly due to the oil business. Local companies began extracting this formidable natural resource just outside the city limits, and have expanded their oil operations to countries worldwide. Calgary had the distinction of holding the 2000 World Petroleum Congress, which just goes to prove their importance in worldwide oil production . . . Full story at http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A446438

The City of Edmonton, is the capital of the Province of Alberta, Canada . The Alberta Legislature, overlooking the North Saskatchewan River Valley, is the seat of the provincial government. A virtual tour of Edmonton is available online, where you'll also find a virtual tour of Edmonton City Hall. City Hall is located in the center of downtown, just north of Churchill Square, the central plaza of the city.

The city is located roughly in the middle of Alberta on both the north and south banks of the North Saskatchewan River. The river valley is given over almost entirely to parkland, and much of it remains wooded with native spruce and poplar forests. There is a system of river valley parks in which a network of bicycle and footpaths cross and re-cross the river a number of times. The river Valley Park System is the largest urban park in north America, stretching for 48 kilometres and covering 7400 hectares…Full story at http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A997833

More Canadian cities: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/C685

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dm

Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 09:33 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm a Canadian eh, and while we do live in a dictatorship, we've been somewhat fortunate to have leftist prime ministers, like Chretien and Trudeau. Mulroney was a major blemish. Martin will probably follow in Mulroney's footsteps. I personally believe that the world never recovered from Kennedy's assination. We've been mourning it ever since.

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Dennis Wooley

Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 01:44 pm Click here to edit this post
Why Antarctica will soon be the only place to live - literally
By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor
Independent 02 May 2004
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=517321

Antarctica is likely to be the world's only habitable continent by the end of this century if global warming remains unchecked, the Government's chief scientist, Professor Sir David King, said last week.

He said the Earth was entering the "first hot period" for 60 million years, when there was no ice on the planet and "the rest of the globe could not sustain human life". The warning - one of the starkest delivered by a top scientist - comes as ministers decide next week whether to weaken measures to cut the pollution that causes climate change, even though Tony Blair last week described the situation as "very, very critical indeed".

The Prime Minister - who was launching a new alliance of governments, businesses and pressure groups to tackle global warming - added that he could not think of "any bigger long-term question facing the world community".

Yet the Government is considering relaxing limits on emissions by industry under an EU scheme on Tuesday.

Sir David said that levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere - the main "green- house gas" causing climate change - were already 50 per cent higher than at any time in the past 420,000 years. The last time they were at this level - 379 parts per million - was 60 million years ago during a rapid period of global warming, he said. Levels soared to 1,000 parts per million, causing a massive reduction of life.

"No ice was left on Earth. Antarctica was the best place for mammals to live, and the rest of the world would not sustain human life," he said.

Sir David warned that if the world did not curb its burning of fossil fuels "we will reach that level by 2100".

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Kay Camden (Kay)

Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 10:18 am Click here to edit this post
Poll: Over 40% of Canadian Teens Think America Is ‘Evil’

Can West News Services, owners of several Canadian newspapers including the National Post as well as the Global Television Network commissioned a series of polls to determine how young people feel about the issues that were facing the country’s voters. Dubbed "Youth Vote 2004", the polls, sponsored by the Dominion Institute and Navigator Ltd. were taken with a view to getting more young people involved in the political process. In one telephone poll of teens between the ages of 14 and 18, over 40 per cent of the respondents described the United States as being "evil". That number rose to 64 per cent for French Canadian youth.
http://www.torontofreepress.com/2004/weinreb063004.htm


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