Although Oregon has more than enough government for anyone, it seems to me that the southwest portion of the state would be the most survivable place in the country with regard to nuclear attack. A paucity of strategic targets and the westerly breeeze would minimize risk from fallout.
As a resident I find that the vast majority of people in this state are not only willing, but in fact eager, to believe that the present government is going to protect them from all of lifes problems.
Any comments ?
Anticipate at least some of the surviving 30 MILLION residents in the state just south of you to migrate north.
True, some would, however considering that the majority of those thirty million are either directly or indirectly connected to the country south of that state and that Canada and the Seattle Area are important targets I think the number coming north would be relatively small.
Klamath Falls used to be a good area but it's now filled with FBI survivalists. I Still think, based upon lack of important targets and general weather direction, that SW Oregon would be one of the most survivable places.
The problem would be living with the eco-freaks and tax me more types until an event occurred.
the backside of Oregon (eastern) looks even better. you can get some high quality, very secluded properties tens of miles from tiny no-name towns where you need to pack (a lunch) to go check the mail or have to loan your GPS unit to coming visitors so they can find you......
Id expect a lot of trouble and general friction along any coastal area, and the central Kalifornia valley acts as a funnel smack through Shasta and Grants pass/Klamath, no thanks.
radiation might or might not become a problem, but at least there will be almost no one around to hassle you about it.
Fears about radiation are way oversold at long downwind ranges. Yes, it's a problem you must prepare for and know how to handle, but it's primarily a 30 to 60 day problem after the fireworks show is over and is not particularly difficult to handle. what comes after that can easily last for 10 years or more, so put your energy where it's needed most.
Man, all this stuff is depressingly expensive, so plan very wisely. For instance, how many people have a good grain mill and know how to do home canning and organic gardening? Not many.
stay out of northern Idaho anymore. it's getting crowded, and with the wrong type. It's a lucious target for our "Homeland Defense" folks.......
Eastern Oregon as you describe has those tiny towns (look at Mitchell) nut getting across the Cascades may be a problem. There are a lot of decent forest service roads but they are not passible in winter. I think I'll go over and take a look this spring.
You're right about the expense. If the economy tanks a little and gold goes up maybe we could make a little profit to offset some of the cost. Obviously, timing is everything. Also, just stay out of Kookifornia. Went down there a year ago, it's nuts.
forest service roads......hmmmmm....... I wouldnt mind felling a few nice big trees across them when the time comes....... dont worry about the roads not being passable in winter, thats a big plus! I've seen very few roads that were not actually impassable after all using a snowmobile or a properly equipped motorcycle. If you do it right there's no problems.
I left San Francisco 6 months ago after living there for 7 years. I guess I am a glutton for abuse....... dont get a DWC there ! (driving while conservative!). I've also travelled a lot over the last 2 years on business and there's 4 places you NEVER want to be at any time no matter the circumstances. Chicago, SF, DC, east Orlando FL, etc. guess I am stating the obvious but these places are astonishingly BAD. I just prayed the street lights would stay on as I drived by.......... I knew they were nasty places, but I didnt know just how bad....wow!
In SF, I had two bumperstickers on my car. One read "keep working, millions on welfare depend on you!" and a pro-gun sticker "politicians prefer unarmed peasants"., I cant tell you how many times people and fellow commuters threw stuff at my car, including half consumed coffee drinks, tailgated me with both middle fingers out the window, and shot out from behind me while passing on the road and then cut back in right in front of me...... I loved every moment of it. I even had someone with neon green hair and a lip-ring take some eggs out of a shopping bag and throw them........ it was a junk car so I didnt care.
I got lots more stories but I will reserve them for private emails if you would like........ I'd have to think pretty hard how to make most of them publicly consumable.......
Im in the dallas area now, but dallas metro is going down the drain pretty fast as the metro area has reached liberal infection critical mass quite a while ago.
gold is never a bad idea. just make sure its physical gold, in your hands. market prices for gold are so manipulated I dont know if I would use it as an investment tool per se, but I would keep some in the sock drawer along with some silver coins and a good pistol only after taking care of the basic supplies which I have found can easily pass the $10,000 US level in stuff alone....... all else being equal though, if things get as bad as I think they can, nobody is going to care about gold. keep a nominal amount around, but dont go haywire. second thought, get the pistol first simply because if you aren't able to keep what's yours', then what's the point?
If a nuclear scenario develops, you'd be better off with the obvious hard barter goods, like common ammo, medical supplies, cigarettes, booze, toothpaste, ladies make-up, diapers,and food (stuff you would want around for yourself or family anyway).
Under these initial circumstances, gold wouldnt really be worth the steam off a rat's urine until a substantial "recovery" is underway and you wont know if transacting gold will be "allowable" but so called contraband will always be priceless.
Ive never actually been to eastern oregon, but I get more interested in it.......money, money, money............
Remember, you must pay the state of Oregon 9% of what you earn in income taxes. That, along with very high property taxes, make it hard to achieve the financial stability that is part of a secure life.
We are getting out, and moving to the Reno area.
(And the leftists are continuing to gain control in Oregon.)