Any comments on the Apal.Mts.that split TN/NC?
Steve:
I think thats going to be my choice. Maybe south of Bristol about.... 40 miles or so.
Eric Rudolph is still missing in "Nantahala".
Can anyone reference the effectiveness of ELF/ULF thru limestone v. granite?
I know of two off the grid homes for sale about 50 miles south of Bristol. If you are interested, see www.remoteretreats.com for further information.
Western NC/SC Eastern TN:
I'm really looking into this area and like it a lot, but it seems employment in my field (programming) isn't easy to come by. Also, seems property is a little on the pricey side for anything convienient to work. Any suggestions from the locals??
I am looking in the chattanooga area of tennessee...relocating from texas. Anyone with advice pro or con on that area?
Joel gave most of Tennessee a “thumbs up” in his Strategic Relocation book. I can’t recall what he wrote about Chattanooga specifically. Check the county for Chattanooga in the back of his relocation book for details. While the mountainous region of Tennessee is great for self-sufficiency and A-rated for retreats, there are still places like Oak Ridge, which you want to avoid living near if possible when choosing Tennessee. Joel lists the often overlooked dangerous areas, like primary nuclear targets and even cities that would likely be secondary nuclear targets in an extended war, in his relocation book. Hopefully we’ll get to read his new relocation book soon and check out his updated lists—what changed and what didn’t in US cities and military bases since his last book was written in the late 1990s.
hi, kay:
Thanks for the information. Is there a newer or updated version of strategic relocation in the works? When will it be available? Does any one know??
A few months ago Joel wrote in his World Affairs Brief that he was working on the updated version of Strategic Relocation then. Whenever the new relocation book is available, he'll probably post the information at this discussion forum or under the section of the web site that says "Strategic Relocation."
Or you can always email him and inquire at joel@joelskousen.com
WARNING!
Beware Knoxville/Oak Ridge/Tennessee Valley area. Extreme danger for main residence or emergency relocation. This area is sandwiched between the Appalachin Mountains and the Cumberland Plateau, and was thus chosen for Pentagon's 1st nuclear bomb factory: in case of explosion, radioactive fallout would be blocked from Washington DC. Nuke factories are still cranking out the bombs. Intentional radiation leaks to poison the surrounding farmland and residents was reported by 1994 presidential commission. NOxVille reportedly had the worst air pollution in USA, and ORNL is the worst nuke dump on Earth. Knoxville is home to the CEO of BFI/Waste Management, the world cartel for garbage, nuke waste, medical waste, scrap metal, tow-trucking/chop-shopping (car theft), with 25 contractors convicted in NY City for membership in Gambino and Genovese Mafias. BFI/WM and Controlled Demolitions Inc were paid $7-billion to demolish the World Trade Center and destroy the evidence of bombs inside the 7 buildings, just like their contract to demolish the Oklahoma City Fed Bldg, along with 7,000 other bldgs, including nuke plants and military structures. According to Knoxville City Councillor Carlene Malone, whose father was a NYPD homicide detective: "Knoxville must be the most corrupt city on Eath. On city council (with Skull and Bones mayor Victor Ashe), I was in the presence of evil." Ashe previously told lawyers, business reps and homeowners associations during a city council meeting into annexing and doubling their taxes without representation: "You will pay any tax increase I tell you to pay! You can afford it!" A single business faced a $500,000/year property tax increase, and biz reps said they would not only leave Knoxville, but Tennessee and USA, rather than pay such tax increases (which was the mayor's purpose). Knoxville is HQ for Scripps Howard/COMCAST/ATT media cartel, which Ashe is trying to give $1-billion in corporate welfare, after already giving them $20-million welfare. Mr Scripps and Mr Howard are members in Bohemian Grove presidential retreat, where Bush family and Jew Bill "Clinton" Blythe IV vacation together every year and perform "mock" human sacrifices to their 50-foot-tall idol of the Jewish god Molech (Satan). Our sheriff Tim Hutchinson has 6 convictions for perjury, rented an airport from a convicted narco dealer, built 400 houses with his unlicensed convicted felon partner, and confessed to stealing cars with a convicted cop killer. This sheriff also led a martial law evacuation of 30,000 residents for the fake derailement of a US Army train carrying chlorine gas. Our previous sheriff went to prison for stealing $1-million in cars to feed his cocaine addiction. And gov't-employed hit men can kill cops without fear in this town - that's why smart journalists literally carry Uzi machine guns to ward off the expendable assassins. This is apparently a Mafia region for money laundering billions of dollars per year in cocaine profits, according to FBI press releases published in the local newspapers. So Knoxville named a highway for a convicted hit-and-run killer drug kingpin named "senator," and is now boycotted by millions of outraged Americans. Tennesseans are routinely assassinated here, such as MLK Jr and the former USMC chief of public affairs and the Pentagon (retired as a newspaper editor in Al Gore's hometown), after he reported that Pentagon special forces rescued Colonel-President Qaddafi before USAF and USN bombers raided Libya in Operation El Dorado Canyon in 1987.
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Take a look at the data on Ashe County NC at my website garyascott.com
Use the search engine and look at Ashe County. I am a newsletter publisher and friend of Joel's brother Mark and bought a farm and am building a Poly Steel high insulation, off the grid house there. Prices are way below counties and towns south such as Boone and Blowing Rock. The conty is rated as one of the cleanest in the U.S. There is lots of water that is good for hydro power and 96% of it is not polluted. All our drinking water is gravity fed spring water that also runs our generator. We are remote, still do not have a zoning ordinance and isolated yet we have DSL so I can run my entire business from the farm.
Wow John! For the benefit of others let me express the flip view of Tennessee....Knoxville and Chattanooga. I lived in the south all my life till two years ago and I'm moving back asap.
Tennessee and Alabama are lush, green, beautiful states. There are mountains, caves, true seasons...none too extreme. Crime is relatively low compared to the national average. Real estate is affordable and there are no state taxes in Tennessee. There is still plenty of affordable rural land where you can get away. You can grow your own food and if you're near a creek, purify your own water. In a desperate situation ( I think I'd starve first) you could hunt rabbits, deer, squirrels, or go fishing. You can even raise your own chickens or cattle.
Chattanooga and Memphis are breathtaking in the fall. Knoxville is smaller. It would probably be safer during civil unrest. It does occasionally flood in Alabama and Tennessee. You could get mountain land to avoid that.
The biggest selling point is the people. If you get lost, someone will show you the way. If you have a flat, someone will stop and help you. If you wave or say hello no one will look at you like you're crazy. There are a lot of old "folks" who just love to sit and tell you about surviving the depression and the wars. A lot of untapped wisdom.
Sorry about going on and on. I just had to get that out
I (the male Tristan) agree with everything the female Tristan above wrote about Knoxville and Tennessee. At the same time, I also agree with John. Lush, green beauty and friendly people aren’t what keep you safe during a crisis as much as staying out of harm’s way in the first place will save you. For example, if you enjoy the seashore, you might think Norfolk, VA is pretty and the people there are wonderful, so you go to live in Norfolk or Hampton Roads. Yet it doesn’t change the fact that places like Norfolk, with all the military bases there, are likely to become targets during a major war when Russia/China/other enemies finally strike the U.S. Looks can be deceiving. Friendly people may be kind-hearted and like-minded. . . but they're still sitting ducks if they choose to live too close to a future blast zone.
Tristan is right that Tennessee is filled with breathtaking rural mountain scenery. It’s a terrible shame that our corrupt leaders, as John described, ruined the area and now many formerly safe towns no longer are wise choices for anyone who's determined to survive the next big war.
hi Triston they say authority corrupts and absolute authority absolutely corrupts. Today you are living in perilous times times when prophesied by Daniel chapter 12 many shall run to and fro and knowledge shall increase. The question is where does God want me in a time of Armeggedon the great third world war? While many claim they are wise virgins and have two year food storage and solar power under ground bunkers they miss one very important point.The government is the enemy in a time of national securiy if you think you can hide think again any man who owns instore more than 3 months supply of food storage must hand it over to the government it is now classed as food hoarding and will be confiscated in a national emergency by officials like the ATF. There is only one place that will be safe, and that is the place that God has anointed as a gathering. There is strength in numbers. If you are alone, as the scriptures say he who lives by the sword dies by the sword, neighbors shall be against neighbor, and he that will not take up arms against his neighbor must needs flee to the group gathere according to Matthew ch. 23--where the eagles are, so shall the elect be gathered.
Re: Question about Chattanooga, moving from Texas: Chattanooga has lots of rainfall and it's relatively easy to grow a garden there, relative to rocky central Texas. Chattanooga is surrounded by mountains, so has few tornadoes though it's had a few within about the last 5 yrs or so. Being familiar with both states, I'd say Tenn is much easier due to the rainfall and vegetation to survivice/grow food/obtain water, but I think the people in Texas are more "with it" regarding thinking outside the box and being independent-minded from a political standpoint. However, the people in Tenn. are friendly and helpful to new-comers, esp if you're already from the south. Texas has a much harsher climate due to limited rainfall and soil in some parts. Tenn has no state income tax, although you do have some kind of personal property tax. My bias about Tennesseans being not as free-thinkers as Texians may be biased by my associations in Tenn who,though "conservative" (I detest labels) are what I call "go-along" conservatives who don't want to think for themselves and follow with their nose on what I call the typical mainstream conservative line of thought...which is yet just another mindtrap in my humble opinion.
Matthew 23. Wheresoever Eagle's gather... Eagle's only gather on dead carcasses...
Hoarding is only considered to be hoarding if you start stocking up when there is already a shortage.
You seem to be saying that you won't be stocking up on food because the gov't MIGHT take it. Following the same line you must not have a car, because someone MIGHT steal it.
The Bible talks about feeding the hungry and clothing the naked. How can you feed the hungry if you don't have extra to share?
Is not "Tennessee" spelled as written ?
It is listed without the two Es on the end.
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